How do you manage your central heating?

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I think it should, all the ones I've looked at just seem to open and close the pump circuit. Mind you, I never had much to do with them over there as they were existing systems.
Welly wrote:my opinion of 6 days off / 1 day on would be that in those 6 'off' days are the risks of condensation and frozen pipes worth the risk compared to heating-on-low strategy? I believe the benefits of having a fairly constant condition far outway any perceived savings.
I was just exaggerating the time the system would be powered off, the periods I would actually be looking at is at night and when nobody's home. I can't see why having it on low would save more energy than turning it off, but I'm willing to accept that the answer is probably counter-intuitive, as most things seem to be these days...

I can't sleep if I'm too warm (my brother is the same, he reckons it's because we grew up in a house with no heating except a log fire and a storage heater) so my bedroom window is open 24/7 (everyone here has those windows that can tip open at the top, it would be possible to open it from the outside eventually but it would be easier to kick in the front door and Scooter would've had your leg off by then) and most of the time the radiator in my bedroom is on minimum or off. Occasionally I do wake up cold but it doesn't take too long to warm up in there if I shut the window and open the door to the rest of the house. If I open the radiator full I run the risk of waking up in a hour sweating.
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Having the woodburner kinda forces us to let it go out in the mid-late evening since it heats the chimney and surrounding brickwork to astonishing temperatures. Said chimney passes between our bedroom and the study, rendering both radiators superfluous except when resorting to the gas boiler. Unsurprisingly, we also tend to have a bedroom window open most of the time.
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As far as I was led to believe it is not efficient to keep your heating on lower 24/7. You do not want to heat the fabric of your house, as radiators work mostly via convection, so ideally should not be bleeding energy in to the walls and then outside. Far more efficient to turn your boiler on for short bursts and warm the air, letting TRV's and house thermostat regulate room air temperature. It probably is not as simple as I state, as it will depend largely on how effective the house insulation is ect.. I suppose it is also very hard to determine which method would actually save you money, unless you had two identical houses next to each other, however this is how I have always worked things and have not been overly worried about fuel bills!
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Captain Jack wrote:No gas here, so reliant on oil, which is thankfully relatively cheap these days.
How much is it there? It's 5.09Kn (52p) a litre here just now, which is amazing. Thing is I need a top up but I'm wondering if I should fill the tank while it's cheap (that'd be about 3,500 litres). Last time I bought some it was almost a quid a litre with the exchange rate...
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Congratulate me, I've run out of heating oil :oops:

I knew I should've stuck some in but, with the pound rising against the weasel and the price of oil falling, I figured the longer I left it, the better it would be. Besides, ordering oil usually means turning the heating off and waiting about for a few hours in the cold, so I'm not so keen to do it if it can be put off until later.

I started this winter with 900 litres of heating oil and it had gradually dropped to somewhere between 400-500 and seemed to stay there but I thought the modest consumption was due to the mild weather. No, the gauge was stuck (to be fair all it is is a float on a length of string on the bottom of a spring in a little box that turns a needle against an adjustable gauge). I meant to go to check on it yesterday but I couldn't be bothered 'cos it was snowing and there'd be nowhere to park because nobody seems to have bothered to clear the pavements, plus I'm lazy. So I troll up there this morning after dumping t'wife at work and the red malfunction light's lit on the burner. Oh crap. Reset it, turn it on and all it does is cough and fart for a minute and then trip out again. Balls. This is when I find out about the gauge, so I dip the tank with a tape measure and find just a drip on the end. Arse!

So I pull out t'mobile to call t'wife, only to find that, because it's a "smart" phone, and, even though I put it on charge last night, it's decided to open so many programs it didn't actually charge to any extent. Brilliant. So I send the wife a text, explaining about the heating oil cock-up and tell her to text me back with instructions because the phone's almost flat. So she rings me back... :roll: She tells me to clear snow for the tanker, to go to the next town over to order some oil, to go to the bank to get the money out, she reminds me that I need to pick her up at 12 to go to the clinic and, oh yes, don't forget to have lunch :shock: So I tell her I can't do all that because the snow is up to my knees and ask her to order it over the phone and use her credit card, just like she did last time. My phone then expires and I set about clearing the snow.

So I clear a wide path up to the gates, I clear a space behind the gates to park the yoyo in. I then opened the gates... I soon discover the reason why none of my neighbours have bothered clearing the pavement this time, the snow plough has compacted all the snow from the road up onto the pavement and it's about 5' x 18" of compressed snow and ice, and I have to clear a space off big enough for a tanker to pull in. Why me? :( I used the metal snow shovel to break it up and the plastic one to chuck it over my fence onto my lawn (it's down there somewhere). It took 2 hours, the metal snow shovel is now fairly mangled and the plastic one is about had it but I did it! And I didn't cripple myself in the process.

When I picked t'wife up she tells me they'll deliver "within 48 hours" Whoah, my house will freeze! No it won't, it's not due to go much under zero for the next few days, it will be fine :? (Btw Inside the house, which I usually heat to 12 degrees, it was then 7.5, which probably means the heating died last night some time, which also probably means if I had gone yesterday I wouldn't have known about its demise until Thursday, which is when I planned to go next.) So we've ordered 2,000 litres of cheap Russian garbage... sorry, finest heating oil at 4,95Kn a litre (which works out at about 48 pence, it's not been that cheap since I first got here almost 11 years ago!). They promise to call us when they're on their way (we'll see)

And what's the weather doing now? It's 5 degrees and raining. Half the snow has gone, so if I'd known it was going to take 2 days I could've left it until this evening/tomorrow morning to clear the snow and would've had to clear much less. If, if if... Bugger it, it's done.
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I love the cold and the snow. Sounds like fun to me!
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You're sick!
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steve_earwig wrote:You're sick!
I'd love to move to Canada. I'd love a wooden shack in the middle of nowhere with a little generator for power and a wooden log fire. And a Subaru Forester STi. The Subaru is the most important bit actually. Infact, forget the house! A tent would be fine. :lol:
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Why don't you have a couple of back up electwick heeturs and use your free* electwickery? (when not covered in snow).
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Errrr, wrong house....
Bailes1992 wrote:I'd love to move to Canada. I'd love a wooden shack in the middle of nowhere with a little generator for power and a wooden log fire. And a Subaru Forester STi.
I've been to Canada, their idea of "the middle of nowhere" is 100 miles from your neighbour surrounded by trees. Oh, and bears, don't forget the bears as you're snuggling up to your log fire in your tent.
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Bailes1992 wrote:I'd love to move to Canada
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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I am well oiled :o The oil came this afternoon, right when I was taxiing a mate to the clinic (but I was prepared for this eventuality and collected him an hour early so he had time to walk the rest of his journey). Got up to my gaff and... some blighter's been along with a mini digger and cleared all the pavements :frown: Better still, the tanker was tiny, the guy took one look and told me his tiny little pipe wouldn't reach my tank from the pavement so I'd have to clear the driveway off :(

Ah well, tank half full, boiler running, house warming up (phew!) I had a look at the gauge and, er, kind of broke it :roll: I also noticed my boiler is starting to look a little decrepit, checked the date on it and it's just about to turn 20. Wonder how long they're meant to last...
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Do you ever think about selling or renting your place out? you're full time at 'hers' aren't you?
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Yeah, pretty much.There are loads of empty houses around here, I'd have to get very lucky indeed to sell it at anything like what I've paid ("hold on to it until Croatia joins the EU", everyone said :roll: ) I did think about renting it before and even had someone come to look at it, trouble is nobody wants a big house to rent so I'd only be able to get small flat money, ok they'd have to pay for the heating but then I wouldn't really be able to get any use out of it and my family would have to stay in a hotel when they come here (wanna buy a hotel? Oh look, old pictures, It doesn't look like that any more oh dear me no :lol: ), so I'm not keen on doing that.

I do have a plan to rebuild/extend the barn here to turn it into a workshop/garage (subject to planning/wife permission) so I could move all my tools here and have somewhere to work. We actually have a plan in hand (i.e. we're waiting for a quote) to convert the loft here into another two bedrooms for my family to stay in when they come, then we'll stick my gaff on the market and see what happens.

As it stands, new roof, new façade, new windows it owes me about 150k€, last year a recently built big house (much bigger than mine) with a shop in it right on the high road here that had been repossessed by the bank finally sold for 80k€, my house is about 2 miles away from the high road.
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