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Well me zook's got an MOT until 12 May 2008 8)

What's more she passed 1st time and only got 1 advisory - "Underbody sills and all steel brake pipes slightly corroded" :? In short a couple of projects for next year...

I'm chuffed :cheesy:

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Way to go! :cheesy:
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Thats good going, i bet not many of us have been that lucky with our pugs going through the test.

Nice hat :cheesy:
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What's under the bonnet in that there Zook Dai?

Are they petrol?
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Dai is that a silly floppy Hat your wearing in that picture :roll:
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Playtime_Fontayne wrote:What's under the bonnet in that there Zook Dai?

Are they petrol?
Yeah, a massive 1298CC 4 pot petrol engine :lol:

They're amazingly capable little things straight out of the box, the only non-standard bit of mine is the tyres, and it always amazes me where it'll go. Embaressed Solihull products on several occasions 8)

Not at all nice to drive on the road mind, but that's not what it's for 8) :cheesy: :mrgreen: :P
TooT wrote:Nice hat :cheesy:
Cheers :mrgreen: :lol:
Welton wrote:Dai is that a silly floppy Hat your wearing in that picture :roll:
No :evil:, it's a very nice floppy hat :lol:.
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Dai, I think the hat looks cool 8)

Ignore them, they clearly have no style :cheesy:
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um what happened there? did someone forget to mention that there was a huge drop in the road?

Zooks are cool, my dad used to have one well bouncy over rough terrain too (probbaly his dodgy suspension thinking about it.)

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your parking is not up to much there dai :cheesy:
ive always fancied doing a bit of off-roading since i was a kid and they held some kind of trial in a nearby quarry 8)
but i wouldnt know where i could go and more importantly where i couldnt , knowing my luck i'd end up on a miitary range and get shot by anti tank guns or summat :shock:


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ThePrisoner wrote:um what happened there? did someone forget to mention that there was a huge drop in the road?
:lol: nah fully aware mate, nowt wrong with a bit of side slope or wheel lifting, especially when there's a bank to lean on.

A few of the lads were very glad of that particular bank, it's a pretty big drop over the edge... :shock:

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Especially Gareth :shock:
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trem1 wrote:ive always fancied doing a bit of off-roading since i was a kid and they held some kind of trial in a nearby quarry 8)
but i wouldnt know where i could go and more importantly where i couldnt , knowing my luck i'd end up on a miitary range and get shot by anti tank guns or summat :shock:
Well now as it happens I can help you out with that. I'm a member of the Countryside Reacreational Access Group - CRAG, so know how to find out where you can and can't go. Where do you live?
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i live south shields south tyneside area

i guess theres maps and stuff to help out or are there local groups


i see myself in a range-rover v8 bobtail 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


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Good on it Dai, nice to see you've got a nice fresh ticket, but he might have failed it had you dropped it off wearing that hat.
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Sorry Tremmy, fed and watered now :cheesy: .

What you'd need to do is get hold of an ordnance survey map of the areas you want to use, 1:25000 Explorer series (orangey coloured covers) is best but it works out expensive, so the 1:50000 landranger series (pinkey coloured covers) will do. Try and get one as new as possible because things change, and there were a lot of changes towards the end of last year.

Firstly you're looking for Byways Open to All Traffic (BOAT), (usually shown as +++++++). These nominally have vehicular rights, although they may be subject to a temporary closure (TRO), or impassible for other reasons (poor condition, blocked etc). Go find it, if it's closed it should be signed, walk it first to see if it's passible, then drive it! :cheesy:

The other thing to look for is Restricted Byways (RB). Now nominally you can't drive these, this was the big change at the end of last year. There used to be a classification called "Road Used as a Public Path" (RUPP), but thanks to the aptly named NERC bill, all RUPPs have been reclassified as RBs and as such they've had their vehicular rights removed, which is a real pisser as far as the off road community are concerned. However there may be exceptions to this rule for various reasons, so if you find a RUPP or RB that you like the look of, the best thing to do is telephone the Local Authority's Rights of Way department and ask them if the route is open to vehicles. In fact it's probably safer to ring then to check on the BOATs too. If you're caught where you shouldn't be it is possible to have your vehicle removed and crushed. The background to the NERC bill is scandalous, users of motor vehicles on unsurfaced rights of way have been royally screwed over by the government under pressure from the chinless bobble hat brigade known as the Ramblers Association, but that's a rant for another time and place! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

That's it for the Rights of Way department, but then there's a load of stuff that belongs to the Highways Department. Broadly known as Unclassified Roads (UCR) these may be shown on the OS map as white roads, or sometimes as an ORPA (Other Route with Public Access). Some of the best lanes I know are actually UCRs, could be old disused roads or tracks that have fallen into a state of disrepair, and as such have become quite interesting to drive in your 4X4. I find the history of some of these routes fascinating, one springs to mind where you drive over some of the roughest terrain I've ever attempted down one side of a valley, only to cross a clearly purpose built old road bridge (still with a lamp post) over the river at the bottom then up some similarly rough terrain to climb out the other side. Reports as recently as 30-40 years ago that this route was properly surfaced and was regularly used by normal cars.

UCRs are a bit of a taboo subject though. The Highways Department must keep a document called the List of Streets (LoS). Basically everything on this list is a highway, and as such they are obliged to keep the route maintained to a useable standard at public expense (i.e. surface it). Obviously they don't have the budget for this so they'd rather close it down completely. But we don't want them to do either, so it can be quite difficult.

Essentially you can buy an OS map, then take a visit to your local council office and find out all you need to know in one go. Go to the Rights of Way department and ask to see the Definitive Map and Statement (DMS), get your highlighter pen out and ask the officer to show you every unsurfaced route with motor vehicle rights, and highlight them on your map as you go (don't forget to ask if everything he's showed you is currently open). Then go to the Highways Department, usually in the same building, ask to see the List of Streets and do exactly the same thing (I use a different coloured pen for this).

Unfortunately CRAG haven't spread up as far as you yet, we're still pretty young :? but we've got some members in Yorkshire so we're getting there.

V8 bob rangey is good, Diesel is better, V8s sound awesome, especially when the 'zorst is under water :lol: , but they don't like wading. And while I like the rangey, I'd rather a 90 unless I was going to use it every day. But if it's just a toy and as such you're on a budget (like me!), I can't recommend a zook highly enough. It aint nice on the road, but it's amazing off the road. Mine cost me £800 2 years ago and its £110 a year to tax, £110 a year to insure, full set of 5 mud terrain tyres for £200 and you've got a very capable toy. A further £160 would get you a locker for the rear differential and make it even better, 2" suspension lift can be done for as little as £50 (but for god sake don't use those nasty extended shackes you see on ebay :evil: ). The only other mod I would like to do is a lower ratio trasfer box, you can get one made for about £300, but that's just to suit my driving style and isn't really necessary. I reckon I might treat myself to a rear locker next :cheesy: Oh and get a tin top one rather than a rag top one.

Goddamn thats a long post! :shock:
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neildavies wrote:Good on it Dai, nice to see you've got a nice fresh ticket, but he might have failed it had you dropped it off wearing that hat.
That's it, next time we're out I'm wearing it just to annoy you! :lol:
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