Air Filter

xplosiv · Post by **xplosiv** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:08 pm

Hi,

Just got a replacment air filter for my 406 hdi 2.0 (110). but it is different than the one in. in that it has a 2cm thick white foam block glued to the bottom of the yellow fines.

Any ideas? Has peugeot changed the desing?

Andy

Post by **Welly** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:14 pm

I got a genuine Puggy filter last February and it does indeed have the white foam first and then the paper filter.

In fact even the old one I removed had the foam aswell. Sounds like your old filter is a non genuine one.

The foamy bit just extends the service life of the filter, I pity the engine though having to suck air through all that lot

ThePrisoner · Post by **ThePrisoner** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:39 pm

Get a K&N One.

Pris.

Blue406 · Post by **Blue406** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:51 pm

ThePrisoner wrote:Get a K&N One.

Pris.

and destroy its resale value?

Xplosiv, sound like your replacement filter is the correct one.

*mental note to self: get a new filter*

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:14 pm

Blue406 wrote:and destroy its resale value?

Don't mean to rain on your parade, but what resale value? There's absolutely no point selling the 406's as they are worth peanuts these days, especially the D8's. I doubt I would get over a £1000 quid for mine and I will never sell it. I am its last owner.

Blue406 · Post by **Blue406** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:14 pm

Captain Jack wrote:
Blue406 wrote:and destroy its resale value?
Don't mean to rain on your parade, but what resale value? There's absolutely no point selling the 406's as they are worth peanuts these days, especially the D8's. I doubt I would get over a £1000 quid for mine and I will never sell it. I am its last owner.

If you do go to sell your 6, you'll find that anyone who looks under the hood and spot the "sports" air filter will likely walk away, thinking that you've raced the car to within an inch of its life, not bothering to listen to what you have to say. Mods are Mods and anything under the hood is frowned upon by 90% of folks buying a car, unless its what they're specifically looking for.

And fwiw, a well kept 406 will always sell for top dollar, even the D8s. I've seen fair mileage 1998 examples go for over £1000 on ebay. So take a wee look about before you profess they worth only peanuts

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:02 pm

While I have to agree with you that any kind of mods will reduce the sale value of the car (any car), the 406 is now so old, it doesn't matter really. I suppose if someone wants it for a grand, that's fine, but would you sell yours for a grand after all the work you've put in it? I certainly wouldn't and won't....

Welton, on the other hand could probably do with a new one... would cost him less than all the repairs

(Sorry, Welly)

But back to the airbox issue. The K&N one is invisible in the engine bay, as you'd have to open the air box to see what's in it

Blue406 · Post by **Blue406** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:04 pm

Captain Jack wrote:While I have to agree with you that any kind of mods will reduce the sale value of the car (any car), the 406 is now so old, it doesn't matter really. I suppose if someone wants it for a grand, that's fine, but would you sell yours for a grand after all the work you've put in it? I certainly wouldn't and won't....

But back to the airbox issue. The K&N one is invisible in the engine bay, as you'd have to open the air box to see what's in it

I certainly won't sell my 6. If it does come down to needing to be replaced, I'd give it to someone I trust to look after it.

Captain Jack · Post by **Captain Jack** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:10 pm

Blue406 wrote:I certainly won't sell my 6. If it does come down to needing to be replaced, I'd give it to someone I trust to look after it.

Now you're talking about this... When I was looking to buy a coupe last year and I had to sell my '6, I was feeling very nostalgic. I actually asked my mom/dad/friends if they wanted to buy, cos I couldn't see it go. But they were all happy with their little hatches. The 406 is not THAT big.....

Benner · Post by **Benner** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:11 pm

Captain Jack wrote:
But back to the airbox issue. The K&N one is invisible in the engine bay, as you'd have to open the air box to see what's in it

I was gonna say, he's only fitted the replacement filter, not an induction kit. This is a better than standard filter and if the person buying it had the knowledge and ability to take a look at the filter, they'd know this.

Blue406 · Post by **Blue406** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:28 pm

My bad, when I read K&N Air Filter, I see that silly looking induction kit.

Thats what I object to. A filter that fits in the pre-existing box is no problemo in my opinion.

Benner · Post by **Benner** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:52 pm

Blue406 wrote:My bad, when I read K&N Air Filter, I see that silly looking induction kit.

Thats what I object to. A filter that fits in the pre-existing box is no problemo in my opinion.

Thats ok then

ThePrisoner · Post by **ThePrisoner** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:13 pm

Went for the replacement filter instead of the induction kit for the reasons outlined in this post. Plus they are apparently sh*t compared to the replacement ones.

Pris.

Post by **Welly** » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:25 am

Induction Kits are only any good if you can separate then from the warm air of the engine bay in a purpose made cold air box ducted from low level at the front, this usually means relocating the battery to the boot.

Rolling road tests prove that EVO's and Scoobies etc run higher BHP's with the bonnet 'up' on the rolling road than when the bonnet is closed. This is due to the induction kit picking up warmer (less dense) air from the engine bay.

Many believe that once the car is moving then the engine bay is cleared of heat and is full of nice cold air from outside. This is not the case. The engine bay of a moving vehicle is full of the 'air off' condition of the coolant radiator at the front which can be as high as 60 deg C.