power lose ??

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nipper76
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power lose ??

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hello peeps
just getting my car back on the road, but something just doesn’t feel right...?
when I took it to the garage it was fine, had its power,
but when I brought it back, it just doesn’t seem the same any more.
no UMPH!!!
it had new rads and fan, new cross member and bumper, so cant see why their would be a change,
unless im just imagining it, im not sure!

the turbo sound fine, whistles away a good'n, unless it got something to do with the diesel that’s been sat in their for a few months, since December! dose that go out of date?

when I went up their I opened it up a bit, as it had been sat for ages, and cleared it out coz I left a cloud of black smoke

any ideas, or is it all in my head??
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Post by nipper76 »

oh yeah, i have...

2.1TD R - reg (98)
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Post by Captain Jack »

Hmmm I bought my car like that. Everything worked fine but something was not quite right power wise. Turned out to be a needle lift sensor on injector 1 going pop. Had to replace the injector at a cost of £150.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Post by nipper76 »

nice :(
how do i find out if they are dying??
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Post by Captain Jack »

Erm... I had my ECU read, which reported this fault. Actually, check it yourself... there's a wire coming from the injector (closest to the ECU on the left when looking at it). This plugs into another one... just check that it's still connected. Maybe it got disconnected by accident?

It could of course be something completely different, though :?
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Post by nipper76 »

many thanks capatin :) will look in a bit.
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Post by jameslxdt »

needle lift sensor will flag the K light and fully retard injection timing so the engine will knock like fook
Peugeot wrote:what are you worried about? we made car that lasted 10 years"..."Zat is very goode non? :|
FAQ - 406 D8 petrol (excl. V6) running and starting problems
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Post by nipper76 »

defently not that then :cheesy:
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Post by Captain Jack »

Hmmmmmm.... mine didn't have a K light on, nor was there any knocking. There was some real noticeable power loss and there was NO power after 3000rpm. I actually ran the car like that for 2 years without investigating this. However, the car did jerk a bit at around 3200rpm (90mph+) and once even completely stalled at that speed. Restarted straight away though.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp :twisted:)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Post by jameslxdt »

woops that must only be the 1.9td then :lol:
Peugeot wrote:what are you worried about? we made car that lasted 10 years"..."Zat is very goode non? :|
FAQ - 406 D8 petrol (excl. V6) running and starting problems
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Post by 406LXi-TD »

It sounds like you may have a leak on the turbo pipes somewhere?
If you had the cross members etc replaced, then the big plastic pipe the goes up the back of your engine to the turbo may have been disturbed. I had a similar fault and it turned out that a bracket holding the said pipe had snapped allowing the joint to separate a bit.

Hope this helps?
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Post by nipper76 »

oooh thats a good one... i will go check now.
many thanks
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