New tyre advice

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Re: New tyre advice

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Welly wrote:Mine are £137.00 a pop and wearing fast :shock:

Brucey - I'd go for the NCT5's they're a good tyre for sure, last ages and quiet running.
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the 406 can be a funny car on 15s. I ended up with Sliplop SP Sports but was never that happy and concluded the rim and profile combo doesn't best suit the chassis. The front strut brace made more improvement to chassis behaviour than all my ceaseless fannying with tyres ever did. I think I might've tried to get hold of a set of Coop 16 inch rims if I'd kept a 406 in the stable.
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Had an interesting experience with the Federals on my front today... 3rd gear at well under 1000rpm so about 10-15mph and I understeered on a wet roundabout :shock:

Got to get some new rubber on this thing. Thinking Continental Premium Contact, although the TZ-200s have really impressed me on the back. In fact I think I might switch them to the front for a bit to see how they perform
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mjb wrote:Thinking Continental Premium Contact
Had them on the back of mine - wasn't impressed. G'year Excellence much better
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Hi all,

Need to replace my tyres soon - looks like everyone who's tried them likes the Firestone TZ-200.

Can someone talk to me a little about tyre sizes? I have 15in rims, currently with 185/65/R15 tyres fitted. The car came with 195/65/R15 originally. Is there any possibility of / benefit to fitting 205/65/R15 instead of 195?

In my mind this means I'd have a bigger contact area with the road, meaning better grip.

But remember I'm a complete novice - I have never bought tyres before (never kept a car longer than a year before :)) - so I don't even know if I could fit this size of tyre.

Any tips?

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Stick to the original tyre size. You may get more footprint, but then you change the angle at which the sidewall sits and this can cause undesirable effects. And your insurers might get uppity if you've a non standard size fitted and haven't told them.

MJB, that weird phenomen used to afflict my D9 (low speed understeer) and the strut brace all but cured it.
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Most 406's have 195/65/15's, but the more pretentious varieties, (like mine) :oops: , have 205/60/15's

Don't know if the rims are the same though....
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BruceT wrote:According to the tyre feedback the Excellence is better than the NCT-5.

End of the day, im sure in any car, with enough speed and steering input you could make it under/over steer but it just depends on the progessiveness and controlability I guess.

I am learning towards to the Excellence atm
Good choice, as i needed to replace both my rear tyres (195 65 15's) on my 406, and i rang round a few places about getting NCT 5's but they say that they Goodyear have replaced the NCT5 with the Excellence being a much better allround tread design. http://eu.goodyear.com/uk_en/tires/repo ... /index.jsp

So i went ahead and got these, and i have to be honest that they are brilliant, low noise (very quiet Tyre). And if you shop round you can get a excellent tyre for around £50 each fully fitted which i did and have never looked back. :wink:

So i would say go for the Excellence.. 8)
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Just over 2 yr's ago i bought 4 pug vulcan rims 16 inch and fitted falken 465's 205/55 ZR16 91W
been a good tyre quiet plenty of grip but now the 2 front one's are getting low (just legal) they
have become noisier and tend to pick up and track along any ruts etc , would fit them again though .
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turbolag wrote:Stick to the original tyre size. You may get more footprint, but then you change the angle at which the sidewall sits and this can cause undesirable effects. And your insurers might get uppity if you've a non standard size fitted and haven't told them.

MJB, that weird phenomen used to afflict my D9 (low speed understeer) and the strut brace all but cured it.

Isn't the strut brace a non standard fitment? Perhaps the insurers would get uppity about that also?

I used P6000 on my 406 until I discovered that I could get a Marshall tyre from my local trade supplier at half the price with the same performance /wear.
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I'm just about to refit my Sava Eskimos in time for winter, unbelievable grip in the wet, not bad on snow either. Not so good in freezing rain though (I'd think spikes/studs would be just the ticket...):

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Btw: look which car that is :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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jasper5 wrote:
turbolag wrote:Stick to the original tyre size. You may get more footprint, but then you change the angle at which the sidewall sits and this can cause undesirable effects. And your insurers might get uppity if you've a non standard size fitted and haven't told them.

MJB, that weird phenomen used to afflict my D9 (low speed understeer) and the strut brace all but cured it.

Isn't the strut brace a non standard fitment? Perhaps the insurers would get uppity about that also?

I used P6000 on my 406 until I discovered that I could get a Marshall tyre from my local trade supplier at half the price with the same performance /wear.
In 23 years of driving, and many cars with strut braces I've never had an insurer charge me an extra penny for it. Don't see why they would either - it's invisible, and doesn't make the car any faster, so by their measures of 'risk' it doesn't score, especially when you tell them you've done it to address front tyre wear.

Stick a car on it's roof and slaughter a group of Nuns and the A.I.s will instantly note if you have a non recommended tyre fitment for the rims, but a brace won't factor at all.
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