my clutch rod just broke, HELPPPPPPP

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my clutch rod just broke, HELPPPPPPP

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so there i was just about to get kfc! and my clutch pedal just hit the floor, the aa guy says its the clutch rod
does anybody know how easy these are to fix? prices etc?

any help much appreciated :) :)
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"Clutch rod" being the rod on the master piston, the rod on the slave piston or the rod the release bearing fork pivots on?

The latter is MAJOR work
Either of the former two involve either finding another tubby or a 2.1TD in a scrapyard, or buying a new clutch hydraulic system for £225, then 5 mins work
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that sounds bad, and expensive :( the way the AA man described it was the rod that connects to the back of the pedal has broke,inside the footwell, i think he said it connects to a bit of plastic(like a collar) on the back, does this help in anyway?

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Ah right. You'll need new clutch hydraulics setup then. It's just 2 pistons and a little pot all connected together, and they're just bayonet fitted (like a household lightbulb) into the bulkhead and the gearbox, with a ball joint on the clutch pedal needs disconnecting first. Very easy job to change. Should be about £50 from a breakers yard, and you'll need one from a D8 (mk.1, 1996-1999) 406. Either the HDI, 2.1TD or another 2.0 petrol turbo. The other models have a cable clutch except the V6 which has a different unit, and D9s (the Mk.2 cars) have a completely different system. Estate, saloon or coupé, it's all the same.

If you don't fancy that, take your VIN to a dealers and get a new one for £225. It will feel nicer than an old unit though :)
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ahhh ok thanks for the advice,£225 seems a bit steep for just a rod etc i had a look on ebay but cant find any, but then my search was a bit blind when i dont really know what im looking for :?
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In your D8, it will be a sealed system like mjb says. The "rod" in your case is called a master clutch cylinder and needs to be replaced along with the piping and the slave cylinder. Should be easy.
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ahhh ok, well i think when i go for my lunch i will ring ALS motorparts and see if they can get them, i have to say thanks very much for everybodys help so far especially as i am new to this game!
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It would probably be best to get it 2nd hand if you're on the budget as they cost loads new.
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i did see them on ebay that was the master clutch cylinder,for over £200 :( do you know if i can just buy the "ROD" or is the whole lot a 1 piece unit?
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It's a one-piece sealed unit.
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looks like i am going to bite the bullet1 i see there is a used on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot-New-Clutc ... 4838b8ff5c

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUG-406-2-0-Turb ... 3357830c62

are these what i am looking for guys? and will the top used one fit?

Craig :cheesy:
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That looks like the jobbie!
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Yup, that's exactly what you want :)

Get one and we'll tell you exactly how to fit it
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ok doke im starting to get a bit confussed now, that 2nd hand one in my last link will defo fit the petrol???? as it says for 1.9TD.2.1TD? i take it the whole unit comes with new rods to attatch to the back of the pedal and howcome there new for 150 on ebay and over 200 from a dealer?

yours confused and worried

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Because the dealers have much bigger overheads to cover (not that they're a bunch of crooks, honest)

It's the same part for all D8's (apart from the HDi D8s) with the ML5T 'box (so not actually the 1.9 :roll: )

Number 4 here:
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If it's still that expensive I reckon you really want to make absolutely sure that was the bit the AA man was on about.
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