brought dead duck not lion

[loopyloul]

trouble is wont start was running ok till sat then just flattered battry no reason charged battrey and tryed again nothing just turns no sign life so changed stop soleniod still nothing this is strange its 1.9 td on 96 my son already missed two days school is there any one able help please

[omega]

where are you?

[Welly]

Immobiliser?

Glow plugs?

Air locked fuel?

Cambelt slipped/timing out?

There's one or two members who know the 1.9td, hopefully we can put you on the right track asap.

[StevieboyTD]

If you'd put your location in your profile there could be somebody local who could lend an ear, but .....

[loopyloul]

yes thanks for replys am at hemswell cliff its by canbie corner on a15 1mile north lincoln and 8 miles east gainsborough on 631 thanks keep comming have sucssefully change stop solenoid but no change like no diesel getting through can hear ecu donc every now again not sure if normal its been pig to start since got it HELP !!!!!!!

[StevieboyTD]

Got fuel getting to the filter? (open the drain valve on the bottom and pump the grenade)

Got fuel getting to the pump? (loosen the inlet line banjo and pump the grenade)

Fuel coming out of the pump? (crack the injector lines off the back of the pump)

Got 12v going to the stop solenoid? (solenoid might have been fine, electrics might have failed)

[mjb]

Sorry, but in case the fuel gauge/sender is playing up, are you sure there's fuel in the tank?

[loopyloul]

now people think feed up this tryed the lot if I change ecu under bonet is there anything else needs doing or is plug play?

[mjb]

Right I've just noticed your other thread ( viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9252&p=86740 which I'm going to close and link to here as it's confusing to have multiple threads on the the same issue).

In the thread you said you had an intermittent engine management management light, which 50 miles before the non-starting went on permanently. Are you sure it's the engine management light (picture of an engine with a transistor symbol - looks like a 'K') and not the battery light?

You also say that you put the battery on charge overnight, but the car flattened it after just a few seconds of trying to start. This is a dead giveaway sign that the battery's been drained and is in dire need of replacement.

My guess is your alternator's failed and killed your battery. If it can only crank for a few seconds, it's probably not got the power to run the starter, the ECU, the fuel pump and all the other stuff at the same time, and if the ECU hasn't got enough power to be happy, it ain't going to inject any fuel.

Get a new battery (or borrow another from a diesel car with high CCA output) then check the voltage while the engine's running. It should be 14v or so. If it's not then your alternator's not working, but check the wiring and the pulley first unless you've got excessively heavy or lumpy steering in which case it's more likely than not your crankshaft pulley that's knackered

[loopyloul]

yes just came to conclosion battery stuffed after little home work it is to small for engine 470 cca which explains lot of the problems .on an adventure tomoz public transport ahhh yep first time in ten years to get a battery with min 590 cca should help illiminate have problems spose should put back as standered before trying new battery . Is thier an easy way to change heater plg behind fuel pump any suggestions other than can you play way down , as this is deffinetly older than rest and would not help matters ,i did notice that the immobiliser light was on whilst cranking and out when not strange

[mjb]

The fact it says 470 CCA on the side doesn't have too much bearing on things if it's degraded to the point it's only putting out as much juice as a watch battery Batteries unfortunately degrade, and can often suddenly decide they don't want to hold any charge any more...

[steve_earwig]

Or just suddenly develop massive amounts of internal resistance

Incidentally, I replaced my battery a month or so ago, it seemed ok but struggling to turn the engine when the oil was doing tar impressions below -10, even after spending the night on the charger. I was in two minds about changing it but erred on the side of caution and splashed out on a new'un. Since then I've been cycling the old one on the bench at home - charge with Optimate, discharge with a 12 volt soldering iron (first thing that came to hand) - it was taking about 2 days to recharge so I thought it was fine, a good spare or even free to a good home. However I was just giving it a final charge and... it's a big brick.

[loopyloul]

Sorry, but in case the fuel gauge/sender is playing up, are you sure there's fuel in the tank?

yes mate only did bout 86 mile put twenty in and had some allready in iam putting a 620 cca on today fingers crossed thing bothers me is what caused problem in first place you know your stuff is there easy way to change the glow plug behind diesel pump or is it just case grin and back ache lol looks like fuel at injectors not rushing out but wet

[StevieboyTD]

So you've got fuel all the way along the system upto the injectors?

You need a well charged battery, crack open all over the injector lines and crank it over. As the diesel starts pumping out tighten the lines up one at a time (helps to have somebody cranking the engine while you do this, ensures do air getting in), that should start the engine.

As for the injector behind the pump, i've found disconnecting the first two injector lines helps a lot, just be very careful of the water pump next to the heater plug.

[loopyloul]

[quote="StevieboyTD"]So you've got fuel all the way along the system upto the injectors?

You need a well charged battery, crack open all over the injector lines and crank it over. As the diesel starts pumping out tighten the lines up one at a time (helps to have somebody cranking the engine while you do this, ensures do air getting in), that should start the engine.

As for the injector behind the pump, i've found disconnecting the first two injector lines helps a lot, just be very careful of the water pump next to the heater plug.[/quo
thanks steve will try new had be eaiser way