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PP2000 wrote:ECU did not respond....
ECU did not respond....
ECU did not respond....
ECU did not respond....
ECU did no
Tried everything I could think of, but so far it won't talk to the car at all :frown:
Laptop definetely 'sees' the interface / says it's working, but no response.

Seem to remember someone saying having the supply fuse to the diagnostic connector blown is a common fault - anyone remember?
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Ive only got a basic ELM323.

But sometimes it wont connect because the COM Port is wrong (Unsure if Lexia uses this?)

And the other, but you 'connect' turn the igntion off fully, then to Pos 2 and this will 're-engage' the BSI/ECU.

As if its left in pos 2 for too long and then I try and connect, it fails. Doing the above works.
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dogslife wrote:
PP2000 wrote:ECU did not respond....
ECU did not respond....
ECU did not respond....
ECU did not respond....
ECU did no
May be a driver issue... Good luck with that, took me bloody ages to get mine running
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Thanks guys 8)
BruceT wrote:But sometimes it wont connect because the COM Port is wrong (Unsure if Lexia uses this?)
Fairly sure that's OK as the PC beeps when you connect / disconnect the interface, as it would with a memory stick etc.
BruceT wrote:And the other, but you 'connect' turn the igntion off fully, then to Pos 2 and this will 're-engage' the BSI/ECU.

As if its left in pos 2 for too long and then I try and connect, it fails. Doing the above works.
I think I would have stumbled on the right sequence at some point, but you never know, so I'll try again - definetely had ECONOMY MODE pop up a few times, (which I guess would stop it working).
mjb wrote:May be a driver issue... Good luck with that, took me bloody ages to get mine running
Any idea what driver you wound up with, Matt? - (looked at Device Manager on mine & did seem to be a generic / std Windows USB driver, which seemed odd, but fairly sure it found it itself, on the CD, during install).

The current sitaution is that I don't know whether the current PP2000 setup isn't right, or my car just doesn't want to talk to it. :roll:
If I had another car to try I'd do that next, but the only one available is my bro's '98 1.9TD, which isn't going to help, as that needs a separate lead, (which I've got), but that would just increase the number of 'unknowns'.
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BruceT wrote:Ive only got a basic ELM323.

But sometimes it wont connect because the COM Port is wrong (Unsure if Lexia uses this?)
I found with my dads German car :roll: that the COM port would not function correctly with the software on an NT based Windows kernal such as 2000, XP, Vista etc.

We dug out an old Thinkpad running Windows 98 (not the best version of Windows ever made, but it will do for a few minutes of code reading) and it worked perfectly.


Some of the older software is DOS based and requires a non NT windows (ie. a Windows running on DOS, up to ME) for native COM port support.
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dogslife wrote:

Any idea what driver you wound up with, Matt? - (looked at Device Manager on mine & did seem to be a generic / std Windows USB driver, which seemed odd, but fairly sure it found it itself, on the CD, during install).

The current sitaution is that I don't know whether the current PP2000 setup isn't right, or my car just doesn't want to talk to it. :roll:
If I had another car to try I'd do that next, but the only one available is my bro's '98 1.9TD, which isn't going to help, as that needs a separate lead, (which I've got), but that would just increase the number of 'unknowns'.
Ah it's USB based. In that case the hardware should work with any version of Windows, ignore my previous post!
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I'm sure I've read that it will only run on up to XP. mjb can confirm though!
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teamster1975 wrote:I'm sure I've read that it will only run on up to XP. mjb can confirm though!
I can?!?

All I know is it eventually worked on XP pro... after much hacking around and hand-neutering of trojans. Should see how much malware was on the CD they sent with it :shock: ended up going through every .exe and .dll with a disassembler (AV products are too intrusive and unreliable for my liking)
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Bad craic when you have to disassemble the code reading software before disassembling the car! :shock:

Me das serial port code reading laptop is an old pentium 2 with no net connection only used to code reading, so damage is somewhat limited to a reinstall of win98.
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mjb wrote:All I know is it eventually worked on XP pro...
Oh! Doggy is using daughter's cast-off laptop wiv XP Home Edition - might that be it?

(I've got an XP Pro CD if need be). :supafrisk:
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How long does it take to get to Stoke from Northants at, say, 35mph? :cheesy:
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steve_earwig wrote:How long does it take to get to Stoke from Northants at, say, 35mph? :cheesy:
It's not that bad!

Based on average of several runs in both directions, (my 30mg/injection cycle is good for 83mph, E V E N T U A L L Y),
I think we're talking at least 60 BHP. (Can you tell I've had time to ponder this and other profound issues)? :oops:

Acceleration suffers most - that's dependent on GVW, so I'd have to have a fairly good handle on how much beer was involved....

- Definetely got power on the right pins on the car's diagnostic connector, so I guess it isn't the car not talking. :?
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Well, another 4 hours of frustration and still no joy. :frown:
All the indications are that the install is OK, but they just won't talk.
(PP2000 won't run without the gizmo plugged in, behaves exactly the same whether its connected to the car ot not, tried every imaginable combo of plug in, turn on ign and vice-versa).
Driver claims it's from Actia, 2 hours of trawling the web for an alternative just led repeatedly to the actia.fr site, which, (unsurprisingly), rejects the download request.
Being a little suspicious of laptop / XP Home combo, thought I'd try my desktop m/c just to eliminate that......
CD drive's not working! Never mind, I'll stick it on a USB stick......
1 hour in, 40% complete, 210 mins to go......

Looks like I will be evaluating Chinese customer support shortly. :roll:
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That's funny, both my drives just stopped working :?

Chinese customer support? That'll be easy :( You sure the cable's ok?
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steve_earwig wrote:That's funny, both my drives just stopped working :?
Spooky! - I got two dead uns too
steve_earwig wrote:Chinese customer support? That'll be easy :( You sure the cable's ok?
Think so....Interface box has a cable out to 30-way circular connector with 20 pins fitted, mating connector on cable has 16 receptacles fitted, (all match a pin), cable is 16c, 15 of the 16 pins on the OBD2 connector are wired, (2 cores to pin 5), but only 12 have continuity to the 30-way connector. (2 go to the same way at this end).
Can't see any way of opening the round connectors, interface box has a tamper-proof label over the join...
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