The great big Voting thread.....

[Welly]

Just out of interest really.....

[highlander]

Is this thread here because you're not sure which particular suspicious, self-serving, lying shower of bastards to vote for? and you think we're the right people to ask?

Everyone now thinks we'll have a hung parliament, wonder what that will be like. To be honest, as long as the BNP scum don't get any more seats, I don't care which of the Big Three parties get in.

[DiscoPol]

Not Fair!

you didnt add a button for us ex-pats/bloody foreigners
it is called the "world wide web" after all

I spose i could use the Cant be arsed one

[steve_earwig]

I was thinking about voting online but then... I couldn't be arsed. I'm with Eoin, they all lie through their teeth to get in, then behave exactly as they want anyway.

And the result will be:

Labour get in - and carry on as badly as before, if not worse = country goes down the tubes.
Tories get in - spend the next few years blaming the previous administration as they ceremoniously bend us over and take us up the collective rear = country goes down the tubes.
Lib-Dems get in - "Oh f*ck!! We were only kidding!! What do we do now??? Oh sh!t oh sh!t oh sh!t" = country goes down the tubes.

[teamster1975]

Spot on Steve.

[Welly]

I'm voting Labour because, to be honest, I aint done too bad under Labour; from a personal point of view my mortgage is low, my house has a nice lump of equity if I need it and I've got work (because of the Academy's mainly). Not wanting any of these things to change I shall vote for the same people

I know a lot of people are out of work because of the recession but that would have happened to any government because it's a global thing. The 'other two' just seem to say what people want them to say imo and they will also want to change stuff (like increasing our taxes) quickly whereas Labour seem to prefer to ride things out and not do anything too drastic/panicky.

[supafrisk]

Here's an EASY way of deciding



Personally, I won't be voting conservative, purely because they want to repeal everything Labour have done, including bringing back fox hunting.

[sirwiggum]

Locally, although Conservatives are pretending to stand by cosying up to a local party, it is basically one shade of bigoted sectarian candidate against another, and not so much about party policies.

In my constituency there are 2 "maybes" - a young independent who wants to stand for non-tribal politics, and the Alliance party who are a cross-community party but with policies similar to lib dem.

If nuLab get in, it will be the same old tax-tax-tax, criminals rights above the victims, big brother soviet-style regime running the country into the ground that we have had for the last 13 years.

If the tories get in, it will be mass unemplyment across NI as they slash public spending. And the problem with this bloody place is, the devil really *does* make work for idle thumbs

If the lib dems get in, well you would be as well winning the lottery trying to run a 406, take nuLabs car hatred and expand exponentially.

If a hung parliament, well Greece will be nothing compared to the national credit rating downslide the international banks will impose on the UK


Is that my glass? The half empty one. Cheers.

[DaiRees]

Problem is I ain't got a fecking clue about politics and I just don't trust any of the bastards...

Can't bring myself to vote labour
Tories could very well cost me my business
Lib dems? Amnesty on imigration??? errrr NO!

Might just spoil my paper or vote Plaid Cymru, which is essentially the same thing....

HELP!

[sirwiggum]

To be honest, as long as the BNP scum don't get any more seats, I don't care which of the Big Three parties get in.

There lies one of the main problems, that some people in the UK feel compelled to vote for the BNP because they feel that the "big three" do not represent them or their views.

The whole issue around immigration etc. seems to have been swept under the carpet for fear of appearing "racist" - see Brown's "bigot" rant as an example. Communities, especially in high unemployment areas, are doing the tribal thing and blaming "those ones".

The EU is a free migration zone, just as people from the UK are free to set up dodgy bars in the south of Spain, or buy huge farmhouses in central France.

With fear of invoking Godwins law, however, one only needs to look at the rise of most right wing fascist movements to see that they get started from a point of high unemployment and perceived anger dictated against a "target" group of people specified by the leaders of those movements.

I'm voting Labour because, to be honest, I aint done too bad under Labour; from a personal point of view my mortgage is low, my house has a nice lump of equity if I need it and I've got work (because of the Academy's mainly). Not wanting any of these things to change I shall vote for the same people

Thanks to soviet nuLabour, I had to get myself into a shedload of debt to put myself through university, and myself and my partner cannot afford a mortgage with a nice lump of equity and all the middleclass niceties that that entails, because nuLab allowed property prices to spiral out of control, banks to give out mortgages with little regulation, and contributed to the worldwide recession whilst having no reserves having sold the UKs gold for rock bottom prices.

[Welly]

Thanks to soviet nuLabour, I had to get myself into a shedload of debt to put myself through university, and myself and my partner cannot afford a mortgage with a nice lump of equity and all the middleclass niceties that that entails, because nuLab allowed property prices to spiral out of control, banks to give out mortgages with little regulation, and contributed to the worldwide recession whilst having no reserves having sold the UKs gold for rock bottom prices.

I know it's tough for younger people trying to get a new place, I've had a mortgage for 17 years and was lucky to get swept along with the rising prices in 2001 to 2004. I worked like a dog refurbishing our last place and took the profit with us to our current place; it was hard work and I had to borrow money but things were better then I suppose.

It's almost impossible to get started now though and I don't think any of these parties will fix it overnight

[sirwiggum]

House prices are coming down eventually, but still downright expensive.

Getting a mortgage is difficult, especially with the misuse of credit cards paying to survive at university still on the credit record

They prefer a huge deposit, but saving this can also be difficult because it seems to be £££s in < £££s out, with no room for saving for anything.
Next payday will be rear shoes time to get the handbrake through an MOT.

There are those who did benefit, my mother bought her council house for a fraction of what it is worth (especially at the peak of the boom!).

It just seems from what I have experienced and observed, that under a conservative government, the individual is rewarded for trying to improve themselves. Under a socialist Labour government, 30% of my wages go straight out again, mostly to fund teenagers popping out babies for benefits it seems, judging by the local town centres.

[puggy]

First of all i would like to say why i feel qualified to voice an opinion , i am 54 yrs old and i left school
when i was 15 because i wanted to work and relieve the financial burden on my parents . Since the day i
reached 18 i have voted at every local and national election , i have been a shopsteward a works convenor also been a
Labour party member briefly a communist party member also briefly a far right member , the latter 2 so
that i could gain some understanding of where they were coming from.

The whole issue around immigration etc. seems to have been swept under the carpet for fear of appearing "racist" - see Brown's "bigot" rant as an example. Communities, especially in high unemployment areas, are doing the tribal thing and blaming "those ones".

The EU is a free migration zone, just as people from the UK are free to set up dodgy bars in the south of Spain, or buy huge farmhouses in central France.

Yes true as regards a free migration zone , but i dont hear news reports of gangs of Britsh migrants gathering in shopping
centres or public places and threatning the locals or commiting petty crimes in eastern european countries neither do i
hear of them living off state handouts in those countries as is happening here .

Thanks to soviet nuLabour

Not true , New Labour has more in common with the tories than any Soviet regime , you only have to look at the way
most people live today in the old satellite states of the U.S.S.R to realize that there standard of living is still way below
that of ours. It should be remembered that the USSR was supposedly a communist society when it was in fact a Totalitarian
state with no free elections .

And dont forget we are now experiencing the legacy of 18 yrs of Thatcherism , an era that coined the phrase "latch key Kids "
because money became god and both parents were encouraged to go to work to earn more and more and sod the children
or anyone else for that matter , a nation based on greed .

Will i vote Labour ? Dont know , i dislike Gordon Brown for the way he handled the banks after the worldwide financial
crisis they caused.

Conservatives ? I was told years ago that you have to be already wealthy to benefit from Tory rule , well i aint so thats ruled them
out.

Lib-Dem , I used to be undecicive but now i'm not so sure , sort of sums them up .

off me soap box now and awaiting to shot to pieces

[DiscoPol]

Yes true as regards a free migration zone , but i dont hear news reports of gangs of Britsh migrants gathering in shopping
centres or public places and threatning the locals or commiting petty crimes in eastern european countries neither do i
hear of them living off state handouts in those countries as is happening here .


off me soap box now and awaiting to shot to pieces

No shooting to pieces here Puggy, as a "British Migrant" who has chosen to leave that "Sceptred Isle" I used to call home, I can confirm that we do not live off state handouts, as they don't just give them out unless you're REALLY in the sh!t
(roughly £12 a week if you have no family to support you, and no such thing as translation services or interpreters here to help you claim).
The migrants I know are all hard working people who for numerous reasons thought better of staying in the UK and are working hard to be able to start or continue a new life away from what is now a soft target for everybody else in the world with a lower standard of living.

[steve_earwig]

And dont forget we are now experiencing the legacy of 18 yrs of Thatcherism , an era that coined the phrase "latch key Kids "
because money became god and both parents were encouraged to go to work to earn more and more and sod the children
or anyone else for that matter , a nation based on greed .

And now, thanks to Thatch the Snatch's antics driving down wages and driving up unemployment, both parents must go out to work.

I have a kind of pet theory that the Tories were actually manufacturing a minor recession to further reduce wages, which backfired when it coincided with the global one, making things 10 times worse. Could be wrong of course.