Not your usual air con recirculation flap problem

[steve_earwig]

Oh ffs


Not really what I was expecting. I think I know what's happened, something's gone wrong with it and, instead of fixing the problem, Mario's just forced the flap open and broken the spindle. Nice. I've put a bulb across the feed and it seems to be dead but I gave the motor 9 volts and what's left of it spins away merrily

So the question is, do I try to fix the motor and then try to fix the air con, or do I try to fix the air con first? I have a feeling one or both of these isn't going to happen.

Btw I think I remember Sam saying something about it but I'm not sure if your wRong-Hand Drive motors are the same - it seems like the glovebox was assembled into the dash and then the whole lot was fitted to the car with little thought to how anyone was going to get it out without removing the whole dash again, so there's a screw holding the glovebox in that you can't get to without giving it some grief and distorting the bracket it's screwed to

[steve_earwig]

No, scratch that - I put a meter over the feed, one side 10v, the other about 1.5kΩ and they stay the same whichever way I have the button. So, ok, maybe it needs to set up. Go fetch the motor, plug it in, start the engine and... round and around it goes for about 10 seconds, then stops. Press the recirc. button, back the other way it goes for 10 seconds Ooookay....

Now I'm stuck (hur hur) on how I'm going to fix the motor, it looks like that soapy plastic that you can't glue with anything

Btw I kind of just grabbed the brown gear off the heater, anyone know which way it goes back?

[Gary406]

reminds me of my problem that ste when i fist got my car, 2 years ago ,

inside that motor was my gremlin, all the plastic teeth had broke, i remember it being a pain in the ass getting to it to change it for a new 1 i accidently put in my pocket at the scrap yard

[steve_earwig]

The only Pug breakers here is right up the other end of the country

I've got the motor split, it was sealed but not in the normal Peugeot "you'll break it first" style, just some soft gum at the joint which gave way to a little gentle persuasion and two sharp knifes. I'm thinking I need some sort of square metal rod to shove through it all, that'll make it strong and stop one half trying to turn against the other. Just not sure where I can get something like that here *eyes up needle file collection...*

[r1150gsclark]

After sorting out the air con, I also have a problem with the recirc flap, it seems to be seized in the closed position, would the motor seizing cause this? Is there a simple fix? I don't want to fork out loads on a replacement if there is a cheap fix. Access isn't too bad on a D9, for the glovebox, you just push out the 2 hinge pins and the lid falls away.

[steve_earwig]

Pull the motor off & check it out. They don't normally seize (or break off come to that) they usually strip teeth. It's right up the top of the fan housing so you'll probably have to take the rest of the glovebox off too.

[r1150gsclark]

Steve, did the problem on yours cause the flap to seize shut?

[steve_earwig]

I'm not really sure what happened, the flap seems as free as anything so I can't see how it could have broken the shaft, unless there was a dodgy connection which stopped it turning and Mario snapped it forcing the flap open. The motor has 2 reduction gears in it so you'll not turn it using the flap.

[robb]

When I had to take out the glovebox out and couldnt get that screw at the bottom out I just carefully yanked the glovebox out when replacing the glovebox I just siliconed it back in at the fixing point just in case it needs to come back out again ,when it all was back together it was ok

[FarmerPug]

some people convert the plastic teeth to metal ones.
Who is mario

[steve_earwig]

It might not actually be a coincidence I just stuck that one with the metal gear in the Knowledge Base - viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12962#p115568

My car was imported from Italy, hence Mario, the ham-fisted clod that had it before me.

[Gary406]

Steve, did the problem on yours cause the flap to seize shut?

only the motor can make the flap seize shut, more or less anyway,

as ste said i would take it out and check it, probably the teeth inside it have shreaded thats what happend to mine when my flap seized shut,

[FarmerPug]

my car doesnt have this problem but im curious to know where would you even begin to look for the metal spline thing, who would make such a thing.

[steve_earwig]

Some sort of machine shop I guess.

[FarmerPug]

whats a machine shop ive never been to one, ive been at a lot of shops where they say we dont have those, they cant be made, it cant be done. All a bunch of easy to give up people then ebay came along so no wasted journeys to useless shops. But this seems like something ebay doesnt even have