Theres a 1.6

[FarmerPug]

I was reading in the owners manual that there is a base engine a 1.6 for the 406, it made me laugh is that enough even to move it and is there any about.

[Gary406]

ive never seen a 1.6 and i look a lot at them on internet everyday,,,

[FarmerPug]

it seems a bit rediculos in a 406 its like trying to move a lorry with the motor in the seat.

[steve_earwig]

http://www.njuskalo.hr/auti/peugeot-406 ... as-1900203

[FarmerPug]

Any chance of some stats like BHP, torque, 0-60 on this big engine.

[Gary406]

guesing BHP will be about 75

[FarmerPug]

HA HA HA ha ha.

A bit slow then, the polo sdi has 75 and takes 17 seconds to get to 60 in a 406 it must be dangerously close to the 20 second mark.

On the topic of small engines in big cars, the skoda octavia with a 1.4, and the BX with a 1.1 this redefines the meaning of underpowered

[Gary406]

the newer 1.4s are sweet,

VW do a 1.4tsi engine and it has 168BHP

168 BHP in a 1.4 petrol

and it even returns about 39mpg

[steve_earwig]

66Kw is 88.5hp, not too short of the 1.9 & 90 HDi (It won't have the torque of course)

[FarmerPug]

and the torque is what matters. My dads nissan primera 1.8 i think has round 115, or 120 bhp but the torque is really very little and you notice the difference a lot in the 2 cars.

The skoda octavia i seen i think was before the tfsi engines came out, but it must have had something a naturally aspirated 1.4 in a big car like that would have been stupid. On the other end of the scale why does some american cars (pontiac aztek for an example) with 4 litres only develop figures around 180bhp

[Gary406]

is it not because them cars are old ? back in the old days big engined cars were underpowered compaired to todays cars

[FarmerPug]

120bhp isnt much from a nissan 1.8, though it doesnt seem to be garnished with the normal japanese decoration ie twin cam is not wrote anywhere under the bonnet.

[Captain Jack]

On the other end of the scale why does some american cars (pontiac aztek for an example) with 4 litres only develop figures around 180bhp

Been asking myself the same thing. American cars are not known to be the best. Two years ago, my hire car in Atlanta was a Pontiac G6 with a 3.5L V6 engine. It was.. RUBBISH. Had to really thrash it get anywhere. Auto gearbox didn't help, obviously. What a waste of metal. (Nice sound system though... )

[FarmerPug]

the main issue with american cars i see is they have been going downhill, look on wikipedia at some like the mercury cougar, ford thunderbird, and even the dodge charger. They went from huge shiny loud muscle cars into crappy plastic shitboxes, the carger even ended up with a 1.7

[highlander]

I wouldn't want to have an engine less powerful than the 1.8 petrol.

The 1.6 was never sold in the UK though, to the best of my recollection.