GEAR BOX QUERY-HOW MUCH?WHERE?WORTH IT?

[martint]

just wanted to know you lots oppinion
I'm thinkin of getting another gearbox for my 406HDi (90) rapier 2001
Can you guys tell me roughly the approximate price for a 2nd hand gear box from a dismantler/scrappy?(ball-park figure)
Also,how much should a mechanic take to put it in my car?(bearing in mind the prices up here in scotland are pretty reasonable!)
Lastly,can it be any 90hp 406 gearbox?or does it have to be a rapier gearbox?does it have to be before/after a certain year for it to fit?
thanks guys-appreciate the help

[Gary406]

well for a start if your replacing the gearbox it would be silly not to do the clutch while its off

for a good working gearbox i would say between £80-£175

cost of fitting around £80-£100

its not rapier gearbox - rapier is simply the spec of the car's trim level .. ie interior . wheels. added extras etc etc

as long as the new gearbox came from a hdi 90 406 it will work on your car...

question . whats up with your gearbox ?

[martint]

ok thanks. every now & then I'm finding it difficult to get it into 4th gear.just stops dead.i have to try again then it goes in.been told it could be the syncromesh.could this be fixed in any way apart from buying new gear box

[Gary406]

im not sure about that ..

whens the last time the oil was changed ?

its something people do not do when they should. i change my gearbox oil yearly

[teamster1975]

Might be worth checking for any excess play in the gear change linkages as well.

[martint]

cheers. evry machanic ive ever asked has always said that gear box oil shouldnt have to be changed.
new linkage has been fitted & still no joy.
im dyin to change my box oil but last time i tried I couldnt,for the life of me get the reverse sensor out.that weird clip thing.how is supposed to come out without breaking it?do i need i little screwdriver with tiny point to get the clip part unclipped? i love to change the oil in it just to see if it makes a difference

[marty1979]

If you do get around to changing the box oil, chuck some molyslip in there too, should help quite a bit.

[Gary406]

IMPORTANT - do not overfill the gearbox oil. make sure it is fully empty before you put new in.

my mechanics helper decided not to empty my gearbox oil fully when i had a new clutch fitted.

so when we put 2 litres in it was actually 2.5 litres in there. which burst the shaft seals and oil was leaking

then he spent 7 hours, 3 days later changing 2 little seals he was well pissed off cos he was doing it for free

[djp30djp]

well for a start if your replacing the gearbox it would be silly not to do the clutch while its off

for a good working gearbox i would say between £80-£175

cost of fitting around £80-£100

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-406-X-REG ... 1c19913ad7

If they do it by the book,i.e drop the subframe,I think you can double that fitting estimate and then some.

[Gary406]

well ye but on my car (XUD) gearbox came out without touching subframe.

may be different on his hdi tho

but ye it could be doubled ..

[marty1979]

If I remember correctly, only the 110 is a bit of a pain, the 90 is alright when removing the box. I remember doing a clutch on a Mondeo, subframe had to come off which wasn't the easiest of jobs when the car's only a foot off the ground, plus it has to go back on in exactly the same position or it throws the geometry out. man I really loved that weekend

[mjb]

Lucky sods. The V6 needs the subframe off to get at the gearbox, and everything's a royal pain down there thanks to the exhaust manifolds. On my car (no seized nuts/bolts any more!) I could probably do a clutch change in about 8 hours using air tools, a 2-post lift and a month's supply of co-codamol because I know the job far too well. I'd put garage time at about 12 hours for an experienced mechanic unfamiliar with the car, and longer for a car that needs "freeing up" (mine needed the chassis cutting open first time round to weld up a cage nut for the subframe, and every single nut+bolt put up a fight)