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Welly wrote:I 'only' do about 9000 miles a year.

I've just frigged-up a quick calculation comparing my 25mpg to a diesel at, say, 37 mpg over the same kinda journeys (s'what my 406 used to return) and I'd save £12.00 per week like that - hardly earth-shattering at the moment especially if I acquired a used common-railer about to spit the dummy out in spectacular fashion :roll:
Seems to me, you're paying 5p/litre more for V-power than I do for diesel. Even at 37mpg, (I get about 44), that still suggests a saving of £772 on your 9,000 miles - never mind my 20,000.....

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This morning I got some Tesco 'taste the difference' Super Unleaded and it was 1.33p/l - I happened to glance over at the main signage and noticed the diesel was 1.33 too.

I also calculate that although basic unleaded is 1.28p it would still pay to have the super-dooper as long as you achieve just 1mpg more out of it :o
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im seriously thinking about LPG now. The kits have come on a long way. There is a guy ive been speaking to who runs an lpg conversion workshop. He is building a bmw 750 with twin turbos on lpg! I knew a few guys with lpg converted nissan 200s pushing 300 brake with no problems. And this guy sells a front end kit for about 400 guid and will check it over and provide a safety cert and map it too. You just need to get back end stuff tank and fittings etc. I see tuning potential with these kits! You would need the ignition to be mapable too though.
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What is the craic with LPG? Do you still need to start on petrol, get it warmed up, the flick on to gas?

I assume it would be no use unless you undertook regular long journeys?
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I understood LPG plays havoc with the head and valves (running lean) add a Turbo and you've got even more heat :|

I thought it suited large capacity n/a engines ok though. The guy next door at my works runs an LPG 4.2 Jeep and he has a right faff getting that thing started, I can hear him every day.
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sirwiggum wrote:What is the craic with LPG? Do you still need to start on petrol, get it warmed up, the flick on to gas?

I assume it would be no use unless you undertook regular long journeys?

Don't they all automtatically start on petrol and then switch over?

My son in law used to do gas coversions and runs their cars off gas, I'm sure that's how they work.
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Would it be worth considering on a 2 litre n/a petrol?

Also, if it is true that it starts on petrol then switches, is there much point if most journeys are around town?

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They do start up on Petrol - I think that's what's up with the guy next door as he tries to swap it over to gas a bit sharpish and it promptly cuts out. This is what I don't like about gas, it's almost as if you're making the engine run on something it doesn't really like, not to mention the fact you're carrying around a pressurised fuel container :o

My mechanic told me he's had loads of LPG'ers fail the MOT on emissions (on the petrol side) as the head, valves and injectors take a beating :|
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TRAVIS BICKLE wrote:im seriously thinking about LPG now. The kits have come on a long way. There is a guy ive been speaking to who runs an lpg conversion workshop. He is building a bmw 750 with twin turbos on lpg! I knew a few guys with lpg converted nissan 200s pushing 300 brake with no problems. And this guy sells a front end kit for about 400 guid and will check it over and provide a safety cert and map it too. You just need to get back end stuff tank and fittings etc. I see tuning potential with these kits! You would need the ignition to be mapable too though.
ive got a lpg tank and guage if you want it mate.
i ripped it out of my wifes cousins car the other week it doesnt look very old ,
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lozz wrote:
TRAVIS BICKLE wrote:im seriously thinking about LPG now. The kits have come on a long way. There is a guy ive been speaking to who runs an lpg conversion workshop. He is building a bmw 750 with twin turbos on lpg! I knew a few guys with lpg converted nissan 200s pushing 300 brake with no problems. And this guy sells a front end kit for about 400 guid and will check it over and provide a safety cert and map it too. You just need to get back end stuff tank and fittings etc. I see tuning potential with these kits! You would need the ignition to be mapable too though.
ive got a lpg tank and guage if you want it mate.
i ripped it out of my wifes cousins car the other week it doesnt look very old ,
Hey Lozz, how much you want for it and where are you, oh and what does it look like and how many outlets does it have, i think i need one with 4 for the kit im looking at.
From here http://www.lpgc.co.uk/index_files/3or4cylinders.htm
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TRAVIS BICKLE wrote:
lozz wrote:
TRAVIS BICKLE wrote:im seriously thinking about LPG now. The kits have come on a long way. There is a guy ive been speaking to who runs an lpg conversion workshop. He is building a bmw 750 with twin turbos on lpg! I knew a few guys with lpg converted nissan 200s pushing 300 brake with no problems. And this guy sells a front end kit for about 400 guid and will check it over and provide a safety cert and map it too. You just need to get back end stuff tank and fittings etc. I see tuning potential with these kits! You would need the ignition to be mapable too though.
ive got a lpg tank and guage if you want it mate.
i ripped it out of my wifes cousins car the other week it doesnt look very old ,
Hey Lozz, how much you want for it and where are you, oh and what does it look like and how many outlets does it have, i think i need one with 4 for the kit im looking at.
From here http://www.lpgc.co.uk/index_files/3or4cylinders.htm
ive only got the tank the bracket and the strap,
the tank as the gauge thing and some sort of regulator on top of it under a cover,
the rest of the components were left on the car,

ijust ripped the tank out as she couidnt get her prams in the boot,

its been sat here doing nothing people have been telling me to put it on araki ebay they can make something useful out ofit :shock:
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/120Ltr-LPG-Tank-M ... 35b0a877d8

its one of these things mate not the sort that goes in wheel well :roll:
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My dad got a primera 1.8 n/a a 2006 with 15k miles for £7k back in 2007. A good cheap car. The kit cost £1500. Although he was tempted and i was more enthusiastic about a lexus GS300 instead he got the primera. It was done properly with a certificate and car plan. Nissan honoured their warranty and the lpg crowd put a warranty on their stuff. They service the LPG stuff for us when it needs it. The only difference is the car uses a bit more oil and needs better spark plugs.
It starts on petrol heats up then its over on LPG automatically, it takes longer in the cold. You can also switch back to petrol if you want, i find the engine revs a tad more freely, but my dad doesnt really notice it. The cars doing good enough mpg the equivilant of 60mpg most of the time, but its still a 1.8 so its dead. Get a guzzler like the lexus or and old Merc or BMW petrol then you have a bit of power.
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FarmerPug wrote:My dad got a primera 1.8 n/a a 2006 with 15k miles for £7k back in 2007. A good cheap car. The kit cost £1500. Although he was tempted and i was more enthusiastic about a lexus GS300 instead he got the primera. It was done properly with a certificate and car plan. Nissan honoured their warranty and the lpg crowd put a warranty on their stuff. They service the LPG stuff for us when it needs it. The only difference is the car uses a bit more oil and needs better spark plugs.
It starts on petrol heats up then its over on LPG automatically, it takes longer in the cold. You can also switch back to petrol if you want, i find the engine revs a tad more freely, but my dad doesnt really notice it. The cars doing good enough mpg the equivilant of 60mpg most of the time, but its still a 1.8 so its dead. Get a guzzler like the lexus or and old Merc or BMW petrol then you have a bit of power.
Some cars will pink on gas,
it can burn out valves to ..but lpg is good on big engines,
ihad my range rover running on it it was 50% smoother running on gas,,
somepeople said it stunk but it didnt bother me as ive been driving fork lift trucks for years so ikind go used to the smell of burning gas, its less harmless than petrol or derv poloution "i think,
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lozz wrote: its less harmless than petrol or derv poloution "i think,
Sounds right, as Transport for London don't charge for low emission vehicles, and LPG comes under that
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