Front spring failure....... AGAIN!!!!!!!

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At least you managed to do your shift supa , fingers and bits
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Surely a track rod would be tight one way, loose the other :? Anything siezing would be stiff all over. I'm not sure how the valves work in the rack but I think it would still self-centre. That's just bluddy wierd!
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I had a ford granada that did that supa and it was the rack that was fooked :shock:
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When you say it's stiff you mean it feels heavy, as if the engine was stopped? We seem to be losing the thread here. Top strut bearing will not create a feeling of stiffness with the steering wheel !! - the power steering is too strong for that. So it sounds like your power steering IS malfunctioning. The system is as simple as
a bike pump. Power is supplied via the pump that feeds a valve with oil, the oil pressure is diverted through a shuttle valve when you turn the wheel it first compresses a spring - one for right and one for left, that pushes a valve open against another spring this lets oil through to a piston which does the pushing. When it moves the piston the valve catches up and closes - this happens in a smooth continuous action until it meets the stops. There is a relief valve that blows off when the pressure gets too high. Any engineer with just half a brain can work it out from this - some typical faults come to mind. valve spring broken, valve seat contaminated with metal bits, seals leaking. Although the steering is fail safe it will be hard going at manoeuvring speeds.
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Ok from your more accurate description that's not the strut problem relating to your broken road springs thread. This is something else and it sounds like you are dealing with a rack valve problem or just maybe the relief valve in the pump - the latter sniffs at the culprit and I think this because as the pressure comes on the plunger the valve lifts against a spring that may have broken and is intermittent maybe because the broken parts of the spring engage sometimes and sometimes not. It is not a new power steering pump you need in that case, it's just a spring in the relief valve.
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Longintooth wrote:When you say it's stiff you mean it feels heavy, as if the engine was stopped? We seem to be losing the thread here. Top strut bearing will not create a feeling of stiffness with the steering wheel !! - the power steering is too strong for that. So it sounds like your power steering IS malfunctioning. The system is as simple as
a bike pump. Power is supplied via the pump that feeds a valve with oil, the oil pressure is diverted through a shuttle valve when you turn the wheel it first compresses a spring - one for right and one for left, that pushes a valve open against another spring this lets oil through to a piston which does the pushing. When it moves the piston the valve catches up and closes - this happens in a smooth continuous action until it meets the stops. There is a relief valve that blows off when the pressure gets too high. Any engineer with just half a brain can work it out from this - some typical faults come to mind. valve spring broken, valve seat contaminated with metal bits, seals leaking. Although the steering is fail safe it will be hard going at manoeuvring speeds.
Yes, the steering feels like the engine is stopped. It's jerky as well

Unlikely in your case, but the symptoms described could be a simple power steering belt loose.
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jasper5 wrote:Unlikely in your case, but the symptoms described could be a simple power steering belt loose.
It is possible to have a "loose drive belt," however, these multi ribbed belts with strong self adjusters rarely slip and if it did it would squeal and you would be experiencing charging problems as well. But this is a very simple test and an easy one for a garage to go for and charge for a new pump.
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Sretno! (good luck :cheesy: )
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Oh :shock: You could always get one of those nice minicab things :cheesy:
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Having speed-read all that lot all I can say is.....

Wow
bloody hell
eh?
oh no
cheer up
good luck

will that do?

hope so, bloody well busy Welly
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supafrisk wrote:What? At £25 one way? :shock:
Do what? Bunch of crooks...
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Top strut bearings!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Your collection of diesel reciepts has slipped down behind the dash and is jamming the steering column...
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