HELP!! Electric seat not functioning properly

Talk about the 406's electrical system, what wires do what, how to add extra functionality, etc.

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HELP!! Electric seat not functioning properly

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:shock:
I put the driver's seat down for a kip early this morning only to find when I woke up it wouldn't come back up :shock:
The electrics work on the forward, backwards up and down adjustment on the seat base itself, just not the back of the seat :cry:
When twizzling the switch you can hear the motor engaging both ways but the seat back will not budge either way, so now it's stuck in a 45 degree position which apart from causing backache isn't exactly that safe :oops:
Please, can anyone point me in the right direction with regards to how to get into the seat itself to check and how I might be able to bodge it at least :supafrisk:
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You've probably thought of this, but I wonder if you've gone too far & the drive has disengaged. Try pushing the backrest up, while operating the drive?

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dogslife wrote:Try pushing the backrest up, while operating the drive?
Same as what I was going to say.
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Tried it :(
It actually came up 6 inches before failing.
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supafrisk wrote:Tried it :(
It actually came up 6 inches before failing.
I have that prob soops :twisted: sounds like you have a partially stripped
cog :shock:
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Is there any way of getting it past that point?
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If pushing it up while working the switch didn't do the trick then I'm afraid it sounds like the cog is fully stripped :(
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The base op had a look last night and he seems to think that it's cable operated (resembling a push bike brake cable) and the wire has snapped inside the sheath. He thinks it may be possible to bodge with a length of brake cable wire :shock:
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Hi soops , after consulting haynes book of confusion it looks like its part
driven by a cable which looks like an old fashioned speedo cable with square
drive , and the tilt for the back has got a splined shaft . The cables are held in
with 2 clips so maybe one has pulled out :shock:
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There's a set of 5 cables:
00008920Y9 BOWDENWIRES SET £46.37 up to rpo 0 8245 8920 FV (4) (with memory):shock:
00008920FT BOWDENWIRES SET £59.48 since rpo 08246(with memory):shock:
00008920Z0 BOWDENWIRES SET £81.31 (without memory): :!: (look the same)!
There are 4 gear/motor units:
00008920FN SEAT MOTOR £168.38 (with memory) :shock: :shock:
00008920V5 MOTORREDUCER £107.43 (without memory)
I can't see any clips or similar, so assume they're part of the above.
(This bit's guess work)
Rearmost motor = seat backwards / forwards
Cables for front 2 motors look the same = cushion up/down front + rear
Therefore 2nd from back = backrest tilt - this one shows 2 cables, like they connect to the seat at 2 points, maybe one's come off?

Reckon your best bet is to canabalise a seat from another car, service box gives different no.s for estates, but I can't see any difference.
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(Or set the passenger seat up and then "borrow" a cable from that side?) :supafrisk:
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While we are on the subject of electric seats does anyone have to keep
adjusting their's , like 2 or 3 times a week . When i get mine in just the
position i want , the back tilted slightly rearward i find a couple of days
later it has moved back up to near upright , does this a couple of times a week
and they are not memory seats :shock: :?:
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puggy wrote:While we are on the subject of electric seats does anyone have to keep
adjusting their's , like 2 or 3 times a week . When i get mine in just the
position i want , the back tilted slightly rearward i find a couple of days
later it has moved back up to near upright , does this a couple of times a week
and they are not memory seats :shock: :?:
The non-memory versions are set up that way, so you'll want PROPER ones next time :P
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Twat !!!! LMFAO :P :P
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puggy wrote:Twat !!!! LMFAO :P :P
LMFAO at Puggy :mrgreen:
By the way, it is a cable, it is hanging underneath the seat and is only attached one end, you can see the wire hanging out.
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