And they wonder why I went back to petrol.......steve_earwig wrote:I think that chap with the blown V6 might have something to add...
By the way... did anyone with an HDi change any injectors yet? WOnder if this only applies to the 16 valve 2.0 (or am I selling the wrong car?)
Major service - what parts to replace?
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Re: Major service - what parts to replace?
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Re: Major service - what parts to replace?
steve_earwig wrote:I think that chap with the blown V6 might have something to add...
By the way... did anyone with an HDi change any injectors yet? WOnder if this only applies to the 16 valve 2.0 (or am I selling the wrong car?)
Interesting this, I was wondering why the trade mags were plugging injector removal tools just recently.
I've had lots of junk mail regarding these removal tools, I guess it must be a problem that has recently surfaced, I and a lot of others hadn't heard of these problems. Frightening really

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406 HDIs are 8 valve, aren't they? Only the 2.2 HDI is 16 valve.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
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2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
Re: Major service - what parts to replace?
Mine is definitely 8 valve (DW10), I think the 2.2 is 16 valve, not seen one yet.
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You are indeed correct.
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Have you checked your nearside mount?
mines knackered
heres a vid of mine, http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/s ... tright.flv
the engines all over the place
mines knackered
heres a vid of mine, http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/s ... tright.flv
the engines all over the place
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I did hear that early 16v HDi's had occasional issues with loose injectors & Pug were increasing the recommended torque setting.steve_earwig wrote:I think that chap with the blown V6 might have something to add...
By the way... did anyone with an HDi change any injectors yet? WOnder if this only applies to the 16 valve 2.0 (or am I selling the wrong car?)
Looks like they Fixed it

As I see it there's 3 possibilities:
It affects all 16v HDis - in which case I should be worried

It affects post 2003 HDis - in which case Steve should be worried

It affects post 2003 16v HDis / 16v 2.0 HDis - in which case we can all pat ourselves on the back

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Crikey, that's bad! Nearside one looks fine, I think...Matt wrote:Have you checked your nearside mount?
mines knackered
heres a vid of mine, http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d48/s ... tright.flv
the engines all over the place
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Re: Major service - what parts to replace?
What's stopping you? Trade it in, then sell it at a cheaper price - $/£/HR money sign
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Got 4k€ you could lend me for an unspecified period?
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Re: Major service - what parts to replace?
Oh, you mean trade + cash? F that... Thought you meant a direct swap... 

2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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I'd jump at that (key for key they call it here) but he wants 8k from me, that's 4 plus my heap I guess.
Hmm, 4x4, tiptronic auto, leather, cruise etc. etc. Shame about the 34mpg. Ooh looky - "prepared for mobile phone", i.e. holes all over the dash for something 10 years out of date, there's no mention of the mileage either. Nah, stuff your over-priced panzer.
Nice to hear your HDi sounds like a bag of spanners too.
Hmm, 4x4, tiptronic auto, leather, cruise etc. etc. Shame about the 34mpg. Ooh looky - "prepared for mobile phone", i.e. holes all over the dash for something 10 years out of date, there's no mention of the mileage either. Nah, stuff your over-priced panzer.
Must have a squint at mine, things are getting decidedly wobblyMatt wrote:Have you checked your nearside mount?
mines knackered
the engines all over the place

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yeah, it never sounds that great when its cold, its a lot quieter once its warmed up, dont know why its like that, just hope whatevers causing it isnt really expensive to fix when it finally breaks.steve_earwig wrote:Must have a squint at mine, things are getting decidedly wobblyNice to hear your HDi sounds like a bag of spanners too.
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All diesels clatter, more so when cold. This is normal.
2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium