Heres a tip for you
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Heres a tip for you
When fitting HID's dont stand back and admire them or turn them off a few times either...without having the engine running as you get a flat battery & always remember to periodically charge your battery jumper back so can do its intended job.
Great times...
I seem to remember jumping a D9 406 is a taboo thing too, great.
New battery time I think and more money... superb. I love cars.
Great times...
I seem to remember jumping a D9 406 is a taboo thing too, great.
New battery time I think and more money... superb. I love cars.
His: 1990 Volkswagen Golf II 1.8 GTi 8v.
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
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How did you fit them, Bruce? Did you fit projectors?
Any pics?
Any pics?
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2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
2003 HDi 2.2 6-speed Exec Estate (2012-19) (also a gem)
2009 Citroen C5 2.0 HDi VTR+ Estate (godawful heap)
2008 BMW E91 330i touring (great fun - murdered by a reversing SUV)
2007 BMW E91 325i touring (slower smoother quieter)
Re: Heres a tip for you
Not at the moment, I was going to check the pattern and allignment tonight compared to stock, but alas the car wont start.
I dont think the HID could of drained the battery as such though as they are in the standard H7 connector and no different wiring...
so a few possible causes are;
1. My crap commute not giving the car enough charge & OR Alternator (Hope not
)
2. Turning the HID's on and off too many times (They used a lot of juice when igniting and starting up but consume 35w when running)
3. Cold has killed it.
4. All off the above.
I was so exited about going to compared to stock but hooo hmmmm.
I dont think the HID could of drained the battery as such though as they are in the standard H7 connector and no different wiring...
so a few possible causes are;
1. My crap commute not giving the car enough charge & OR Alternator (Hope not

2. Turning the HID's on and off too many times (They used a lot of juice when igniting and starting up but consume 35w when running)
3. Cold has killed it.
4. All off the above.
I was so exited about going to compared to stock but hooo hmmmm.

His: 1990 Volkswagen Golf II 1.8 GTi 8v.
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
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It will be interesting to know more about these hid`s.I was looking into getting some a year or 2 ago,but they were still £140+,just been looking on ebay,& they are now £60 a kit from a big/good seller.As you may know i`m fed up with my bulbs blowing,& the light output is crap unless i spend money on osrams etc,but they still blow.Dont know about the colour range etc as to the ones to get.But i`m very tempted.Keep us imformed please Bruce 

2003 Hdi Est SE
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps
Cant retro fit hid`s
Wont stop me though
I see you are in Bristol BruceT.I`m in Patchway.Would be interested in meeting/coming round one night to have a look
Cant retro fit hid`s

Wont stop me though

I see you are in Bristol BruceT.I`m in Patchway.Would be interested in meeting/coming round one night to have a look

2003 Hdi Est SE
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Good find fella, shame you're openly admitting on a public forum that you intend to disregard the lawhammerman wrote:http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps
Cant retro fit hid`s![]()
Wont stop me though![]()
I see you are in Bristol BruceT.I`m in Patchway.Would be interested in meeting/coming round one night to have a look


You can fit HIDs to a car that didn't have them as standard, but the whole unit has to be changed (different reflectors) and they have to have cleaning and self levelling systems. They also have to be type approved and e-marked, which can only be done by the manufacturer. Who's gonna write to Valeo?Da Government wrote:In summary it is not permitted to convert an existing halogen headlamp unit for use with HID bulbs. The entire headlamp unit must be replaced with one designed and approved for use with HID bulbs and it must be installed in accordance with the rules stated above.
Under the Road Traffic Act 1988 it is an offence to supply, fit or use vehicle parts which are not legal.

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Apparently self-levelling suspension counts too.
I was in my mate's garage the other week and I noticed an old Fiat (Punto? No idea, a crap car is a crap car to me), pile of junk, engine urinating oil everywhere and obviously completely neglected but it did have HIDs. What's all that about?
These after-market HIDs don't seem worth the effort - expensive, illegal and don't seem to last too long by all accounts. Not that, if my finances weren't in such bad shape, I wouldn't consider them...
Please forgive me but every time I see this thread title I think "don't whistle with a mouth full of custard"
I was in my mate's garage the other week and I noticed an old Fiat (Punto? No idea, a crap car is a crap car to me), pile of junk, engine urinating oil everywhere and obviously completely neglected but it did have HIDs. What's all that about?
These after-market HIDs don't seem worth the effort - expensive, illegal and don't seem to last too long by all accounts. Not that, if my finances weren't in such bad shape, I wouldn't consider them...
Please forgive me but every time I see this thread title I think "don't whistle with a mouth full of custard"

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steve_earwig wrote:Please forgive me but every time I see this thread title I think "don't whistle with a mouth full of custard"

Don't eat yellow snow...

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There was a big trend for 407 owners with non-HID cars to upgrade them with aftermarket kit, but the differences in current consumption has been killing BSIs due to the sharp rise in consumption on startup, so the trend has faltered. Can't see the BSI on a D9 would be any less succeptible to this.
Jumping a 406 is safe - just make sure you leave the headlamps switched on on the reipient car to absorb any voltage spikes...hold on...that won't work...you've HIDs...!
Jumping a 406 is safe - just make sure you leave the headlamps switched on on the reipient car to absorb any voltage spikes...hold on...that won't work...you've HIDs...!
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All sorted now, nice new Bosch battery 

His: 1990 Volkswagen Golf II 1.8 GTi 8v.
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
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I need a new battery too... before I got to Polska land, else my car won't start upon return to You-Kay.
Patchway, eh? I am actually at Rolls-Royce, Filton at the moment, so I may come to nick your shiny new Bosch battery
Patchway, eh? I am actually at Rolls-Royce, Filton at the moment, so I may come to nick your shiny new Bosch battery

2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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Patchway, yeh I know there. I live in Bradley Stoke, about 2 mins from RR!
Your not having my Bosch battery, not at £110 lol (I could of got a cheaper one, but got a decent make with good warranty and good cranking )
Your not having my Bosch battery, not at £110 lol (I could of got a cheaper one, but got a decent make with good warranty and good cranking )
His: 1990 Volkswagen Golf II 1.8 GTi 8v.
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
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HOW MUCH?!?! F me...BruceT wrote:Your not having my Bosch battery, not at £110

2003 - 2008: 1998 Peugeot 406 2.1 TD 110bhp LX Saloon
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp
)
2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
2008 - 2009: 2004 Honda Accord 2.2 CDTI 136bhp Executive Saloon
2009 - 2013: 2002 Peugeot 406 2.0 HDI 110bhp Executive Saloon
2013 - 2021: 2007 Peugeot 407 2.2 HDI 170bhp Executive Saloon (mapped to 213bhp

2021 - ????: 2016 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCi 180bhp Titanium
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It's funny how we buy batteries with 4-year warrenties etc when the reality is likely to be that the car will be long gone by then
I bought a £60 quider "Super Extra Power Mega Start Super, Super' for mine and it was, err super - can't speak for the new owner though, he probably thinks I'm a bit of a twat by now 


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2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
2021 Kia Spottage 1.6 Pez Turbo Dual Clutch Gearbox Trickery
2013 Renner Twingo - donkey work
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Yeh too true, But I do intend on keeping this car for a while (Longest ive kept a car so far is about 14 months lol)
I could of got a £60 one too, but thought id get one with a better cold cranking rating and from a reputable manufacturer.
Even if it 'only' lasts the 5 years its only £22 a year, bit like tyres in that respect, large outlay but last a good few years (less if performance car lol)
I could of got a £60 one too, but thought id get one with a better cold cranking rating and from a reputable manufacturer.
Even if it 'only' lasts the 5 years its only £22 a year, bit like tyres in that respect, large outlay but last a good few years (less if performance car lol)
His: 1990 Volkswagen Golf II 1.8 GTi 8v.
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club
Hers: 2000 "W" 406 Estate GLX HDi 90 (Bosch) @ 150k
http://www.gsdoc.co.uk German Shepherd Dog Owners Club